Links to mpg-files of regular and super 8 footage

[jukkasil]

Hi all!

I haven't wrote to this forum ever (only for Mike's and Andreas's super 8 ones).

I have visited couple times also here and noticed that you are discussing about the same things than we in these other forums, so I decided to put one topic here also,which might interested you.

I have about 10 diferent super 8 cameras (from Lomo Aurora 219 to Bauer s 715 XL)+ Krasnogorsk-3 (16 mm) and have shot many rolls (super 8) during last year.

I ordered Workprinter-3 from Roger Evans and I have tested it and also transfered about 30 rolls to mini DV format for my clients during 1,5 months now.

I have also upload some of my tests to my internet domain. Here are couple links to these mpg1-files (download them to your harddisk first and then play them with your viewer).

Basic transfer (new K40 footage)


This one I shot during May 2002 with Bauer 709 XL at 24 fps).

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/lapset.mpg

I also made funny mpg-file containing my own shots from the beginning of Summer 2002. I used Bauer s 709 XL camera at 24 fps and time lapse. Music is my own too (= Sorb-i-tol).

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/kesa2002.mpg


Basic transfer (old K40 footage)

These two ones are from 70's, 18 fps

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/huvipuisto1.mpg

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/huvipuisto2.mpg

Here is one sample, I have changed the speed down (28%), the film is original shot by using 18 fps and now movements are normal also with our Pal (25 fps) standard.

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/huvipuisto1hidas.mpg


Fixing old footage

I'm just working with one old regular 8mm film with lot of scratches etc.

here is one picture with basic frame fixed (with Photoshop) and without of it:

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/vertailu.jpg

Here is 2 second example, which contain the both original and fixed 1 second clip. Tip: use to the loop option of your viewer to get the point of this test. It took 1 hour to me to fix these one second frames (16 frames with photoshop). Regular 8 camera unknown, speed 16 fps.

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/korjausvertailu.mpg


I did couple tests with Canopus Video Doctor software correcting colors and here is one test mpg containing both original film examples (at the first) and corrected parts after them.

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/colorcoregular8mm.mpg

the corrected result looked maybe too saturated, but you'll get the point.


Super 8 widescreen

I shot couple tests during Spring 2002 with really cheap camera (Lomo Aurora 219 (fixed focus, only speed is 18 fps), costed me one Euro (0.9 USD) at local flea market), which I converted to 16:9 by filing the film gate.

Here is the first mpg-file (over 7 Mb), I transfer first with WP-3 at 16:9 format and then transfer to mpg1-format (4:3, so material is letterboxed, but all you see is also in the normal 16:9 frame):

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/super8widescreen.mpg

Here are also two frames in jpg-format with their original resolution (1024x576, PAL 16:9):

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/super8widescreen.jpg

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/super8widescreen2.jpg

As you might notice there are some little vertical scratches, meaning the gate wasn't 100% properly finnished. At the end of film there aren't any scratches, so during shooting the film has polished the surface of film gate.

So, I'm very satisfied for my result of this test and I'll start to filing also my other cameras in the future and perhaps do totally one new 2.66:1 film gate for one of them (perhaps for Bauer 709/715) to test also that Hyper-8 mm thing.

Note: you can still use that same camera also for normal 4:3 shots, even you filed the gate!

here is the whole frame with guide lines and without them.

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/thewholeframe1.jpg

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/thewholeframe2.jpg

The true aspect ratio is about 1.51:1 against 1.77:1 (16:9).

Here is a drawing about formats with dimensions: regular 8, super 8 and this "super 8 widescreen" idea, I used to shot this test clip.

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/8mmformats.jpg


Super 8 transfred using normal projector/mini Dv combination

These ones were transfered with Workprinter-3


I also have one example (in wmv-file) I shot with mini-dv using screen and projector one year ago.

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/sagawalk.wmv

Super 8 camera was Sankoy ES-44XL, 18 fps

If you compare it to my WP-3 transfer examples, the difference is really huge. The mini-dv camera (Sony PC-100) is the same in both cases, but with WP the picture quality is much better.

Best Regards

Jukka Sillanpaa
www.sorb-i-tol.com

[Alex]

I looked at the first two clips (they take me over 30 minutes each to download).

Thanks for sharing.

[cameraguy]

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These two ones are from 70's, 18 fps

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That carousel should have made a few kids toss their lunch [img]graemlins/cake.gif[/img] Is everything too fast because this was transfered at 24 fps

[Alex]

On the other hand, the time-lapse clock was clever.

The minutes hand had such a smoothness to it that made me think it was the hour hand.